MrsLeGros
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OOHLALA LEGROS
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Post by MrsLeGros on Sept 13, 2007 17:07:38 GMT -5
Are you talking about the Tall Man, or does that have to do with you and James??? JK, lol guilty As Charged:D
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Post by DustinM on Mar 17, 2008 21:49:48 GMT -5
I really didn't mind the Tall Man having assistants in this film. It made him more like the leader of an army of undead creatures and not just dwarves as the later films would more heavily imply. NOT that I have a problem with the dwarves. The assistants were cool in my book and one of the better aspects of P2.
They were sort of in line with the drilled caretaker from the first Phantasm... only he wasn't sporting the wicked-cool mortician suits. His fashion-sense seemed like something Archie Bunker would be cool with. Ha!
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Post by bigphan1990 on Mar 18, 2008 21:10:36 GMT -5
The assistants were fine to me.
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Post by nitelinger on Mar 18, 2008 21:31:51 GMT -5
Im ok with the assistants. Like Dustin said it was kinda in line with the old caretaker, just upgraded a bit.
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Post by nightflier51 on Jul 14, 2008 23:18:55 GMT -5
I think these 2 were in tall mans power kinda like hypnosis because they were so lifelike in their movements. I do not beleive they were undead.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jul 15, 2008 0:57:26 GMT -5
A more professional version of the zombies. I like the assistants in P2, especially for that sphere scene in the casket room.
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Post by Natalie on Jul 15, 2008 1:31:48 GMT -5
I was very little when I first saw PII (I actually saw part 2 before part 1) and remember that part where Mike flipped the body over revealing the sphere in the assistant's mouth scared me almost half to death. I was like 5 or 6 at the time. I laugh at myself when I look back at that.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jul 15, 2008 1:38:49 GMT -5
Oh yes. I'm sure I was like a deer in headlights.
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Post by Hellbound on Sept 29, 2008 18:40:14 GMT -5
I believe the Gravers are human aswell. The one Reggie fought seemed pretty susceptible to pain and his blood is red.
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Post by lupus on Sept 3, 2011 4:05:39 GMT -5
Okay, I know thread bumps are annoying, but I was looking for a thread like this, because I was considering to start one! Well...I like the morticians and gravers(and the caretaker in the first Phantasm). To me, every villian needs to have some willing servants. Dracula has Renfield, Dr Frankenstein has Igor, etc. It's more interesting to have some goons who are doing it of their own free will than just an army of zombies/robots/mind-controlled animals/etc. They're not zombies, as they don't have yellow blood like all the other zombies in the Phantasm films, and I don't think they're mind-controlled, because if he could control people that easily, there would be no point in reanimating the dead! I think they're in some sort of deal - when the Tall Man succeeds, they'll get a share of the power. I particularly like how the caretaker and morticians look so creepy, with their dark-circled eyes, pale skin and silent demeanour.
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Post by scubasteve on Sept 3, 2011 10:49:33 GMT -5
They do have that "almost dead" look about them. I do think they're more mind controlled than free-willed familiars. Just really controlled to be mortician staff cleaning up Tally's mess rather than helping him directly. I don't think we see enough of them to get an exact picture
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Post by prymal on Sept 3, 2011 14:28:58 GMT -5
Well said Steve! So funny this came up, this past week i was just wondering about this very subject and i agree, there just isn't enough screen time to get a clear picture. The minion in the 1st Phantasm that gets nailed by the sentinel seemed more "alive" and i have often wondered what deal the Tall Man offered him, or if he was under mind control. In P2, i thought the thin, paler more "dead" helpers seemed maybe more "control" driven. Just not sure i have an absolute opinion on this subject...
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Post by lupus on Sept 13, 2011 10:36:09 GMT -5
They do have that "almost dead" look about them. I do think they're more mind controlled than free-willed familiars. Well, I guess that'd explain why the caretaker, morticians and gravers never have any lines...
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Post by scubasteve on Sept 13, 2011 13:33:06 GMT -5
They do have that "almost dead" look about them. I do think they're more mind controlled than free-willed familiars. Well, I guess that'd explain why the caretaker, morticians and gravers never have any lines... Maybe they just really hate working with each other and every day nobody wants to speak to each other. You know, like the rest of us
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Post by scubasteve on Sept 14, 2011 1:43:16 GMT -5
I guess you can't argue with the man himself!
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Post by thetallwoman on Sept 14, 2011 23:01:24 GMT -5
My guess is that someone (probably a *studio* someone with only a passing familiarity with the first film) just thought it'd be cool to give the Tall Man henchmen. When we see one of the assistants plowed into the cremation oven, it's a sort of minor victory that keeps the audiences spirits up (wow...that's an odd sentence). The idea is, you need a more-vulnerable baddie so the entire movie isn't just the Invulnerable Tall Man trouncing Reggie & Mike like the Globetrotters trounce the Washington Generals... Hence, assistants... That's my theory...
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Post by lupus on Sept 15, 2011 4:29:09 GMT -5
Well, I guess that'd explain why the caretaker, morticians and gravers never have any lines... "often, the less the villain says, the more frightening he is" - Angus Scrimm 1989 Fangoria Convention. Too true!
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