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Post by 4barrelhemi on Nov 18, 2007 6:57:14 GMT -5
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Post by DustinM on Nov 18, 2007 9:01:38 GMT -5
That's a Region 2 release (Europe). We're Region 1. Anchor Bay has all four Phantasms for R2 and has made NUMEROUS releases of them overseas.
If you don't already own their MARVELOUS Sphere set, go and import it now. You're missing out on a LOT of awesome extras, my friend.
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Post by The Never Dead on Nov 18, 2007 9:54:54 GMT -5
Yeah that's legit. The region 2 Phantasm II DVD is great.
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Post by MrsLeGros on Nov 18, 2007 10:57:43 GMT -5
sure. make me wet my pants for nuttin.
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Post by dulcimerdude on Jan 20, 2008 9:50:47 GMT -5
I have serious issues with ordering another region's DVD. It's the principal of the whole thing.
Why should I have to order an American made movie from another country? Hacking my DVD player or buying a region-free player altogether in the process. Why should I have to do that? It just urks me to the nth degree.
And then why should Universal or Anchor Bay or any studio for that matter bother to release it here if everyone's buying it from another country? The way I see...each person who buys it from another region is a lost sale. What incentive does our region have for releasing it if the phans already own it from another region? Think about it.
What they fail to realize is that we are die-hards and will buy even a bare bones release from Universal if that's what it takes to support the full series being released here. Just irritating.
Again, does anyone remember the link to the 2-disc special edition "fancy bootleg" of Phantasm 2? I would honestly prefer to support a phan here in America, then give my money to another region because the studios here are ignorant.
Any thoughts?
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Post by bcg1969 on Jan 20, 2008 16:42:10 GMT -5
^ i hear you and understand. but i gave up waiting. first i bought that 2 dvd bootleg import on Ebay then this last year bought the region 2 box set. my impatience won out and i am glad it did as the bonus disc is worth it. i did the same with "Dio's" first four solo cd's. i waited and waited then said the hell with it, got "Holy Diver" remastered from Europe then "Last In Line", "Sacred Heart" & "Dream Evil" directly from Japan cutting out the middle man and paid just under 20 bucks each for the Japanese ones where USA sellers were charging 30 if not 35. bottom line if you can wait that is cool but for me on both counts the dvd's and cd's i just had to have. i can only wait so long before taking other routes to get what i want.
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Post by psychotix on Jan 20, 2008 18:19:44 GMT -5
"Why should I have to order an American made movie from another country?"
At least half the food and clothes you buy come from another country - but Phantasm is off-limits?
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Post by DustinM on Jan 20, 2008 18:32:16 GMT -5
That's true. What's wrong with imports? I mean almost all the best cars are imports! Same goes with beer and wine.
Dos Equis, anyone?
Stop whining, already anyways. You'd rather give your money to a bootlegger for a crappy product than to Don Coscarelli and Anchor Bay UK who have been very kind to our series? That is the most asinine thing I've heard all day.
And I hang out on the IMDB, so I hear loads of asinine things. And their product is crap.... trust. Hacking your DVD player is about as much trouble as opening a bag of potato chips.
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Post by vitaman2007 on Jan 20, 2008 19:17:04 GMT -5
I have serious issues with ordering another region's DVD. It's the principal of the whole thing... I second that. It's the d**n principle. I aint' gonna buy another piece of electronics(or screw with my existing one; it leads to other problems alot of time) just to get the limey ;D version. You can bet your bottom dollar that if P5 comes out, so will this. I mean if Sci-Fi Channel can play it (that's where I taped it from), how did they get the rights to play it on American TV so easily?
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Post by psychotix on Jan 20, 2008 20:09:28 GMT -5
Can't some folks just admit they don't care that much about Phantasm to get an import?
Because there really is no other real reason. No. Other. Real. Reason. And that's cool, but why not just admit it? All these 'principles' don't hold an iota of weight. It's cool. You won't stick your neck out for neck out for Phantasm unless it's just around the corner.
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Post by Red Planet Minion on Jan 21, 2008 9:05:55 GMT -5
Where can you get the Sphere set and is it even still in print? Ive been wanting it for a long time for that extras disc, Also if any one is wanting a copy of Phantasm II its not hard to find at all, Of course you will have to get either the old vhs copy or a bootleg dvd but hey isnt that better than not having it at all? I have a good quality dvd of Phantasm II ripped from the vhs that looks good so it will satisfy me until I get the sphere set or Universal gets off there a$$ and finally puts out the R1 dvd. But anyway where can you get the sphere set?
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Post by dulcimerdude on Jan 21, 2008 10:10:06 GMT -5
"Why should I have to order an American made movie from another country?" At least half the food and clothes you buy come from another country - but Phantasm is off-limits? The issue here is not that something is made in another country...the issue is whether or not it is available to me here in the US. Your statement doesn't make sense to me...so how would you feel if your clothes were made here in the states and then shipped overseas, and your only way of getting clothes was then to special order them and have them shipped here from another country (despite the fact that they were originally made here). That is just so crazy. So now another country is profiting for something that was made here and purchased by someone here. It just makes no sense to me. No offense to Anchor Bay or Don Coscarelli...they both have gotten my money from the already released region 1 DVD's. So please don't say I'm not supporting them. I just don't see what incentive the US would have to release P2 here if people keep buying it from the UK. It just seems that to buy a region 2 set is doing more harm than good in the effort to get P2 released here in the US. That was my point. And yes...I LOVE Phantasm. I am a huge Phan, it really is about the principle of it for me. I don't think I'm whining...I think I am a fan who wants the d**n thing to be released over here so my collection will be complete. If that upsets anyone...sorry.
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Post by dulcimerdude on Jan 21, 2008 10:19:10 GMT -5
That's true. What's wrong with imports? I mean almost all the best cars are imports! Same goes with beer and wine. Dos Equis, anyone? Stop whining, already anyways. You'd rather give your money to a bootlegger for a crappy product than to Don Coscarelli and Anchor Bay UK who have been very kind to our series? That is the most asinine thing I've heard all day. And I hang out on the IMDB, so I hear loads of asinine things. And their product is crap.... trust. Hacking your DVD player is about as much trouble as opening a bag of potato chips. Whoa..."whining" and "asinine"? I can just feel the love... We're all on the same side here...am I not allowed to have an opinion? I don't even have a problem with imports...I truly don't. I just think this whole "region" DVD setup is ridiculous anyway. If I didn't have to hack my player I'd probably order the d**n sphere set and be done with it. It's just frustrating that Universal won't release it (God, maybe I am whining)
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Post by bcg1969 on Jan 21, 2008 11:19:07 GMT -5
Where can you get the Sphere set and is it even still in print? Ive been wanting it for a long time for that extras disc, Also if any one is wanting a copy of Phantasm II its not hard to find at all, Of course you will have to get either the old vhs copy or a bootleg dvd but hey isnt that better than not having it at all? I have a good quality dvd of Phantasm II ripped from the vhs that looks good so it will satisfy me until I get the sphere set or Universal gets off there a$$ and finally puts out the R1 dvd. But anyway where can you get the sphere set? www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_/026-0580369-8797262?url=search-alias%3Ddvd&field-keywords=phantasm&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Gojust make sure to check the pound to dollar rate as the dollar is weak against the British pound at the moment. this site will help converting the dollar into almost any currency so you will know in advance what the price range will be. www.xe.com/ucc/right now the sphere set is double the price of the digi pack version that i ordered.
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Post by Red Planet Minion on Jan 21, 2008 12:04:43 GMT -5
Thanks so much for that link, That is a sweet set! Im getting it, Now how can I hack my dvd player?
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Post by DustinM on Jan 21, 2008 13:54:25 GMT -5
If you buy an illegal bootleg instead of importing the legit version, then not only are you NOT supporting Don Coscarelli and Anchor Bay but you're taking hard-earned money out of their pockets.
Do I own bootlegs? Sure. But do I also own the legit versions? Yes and several times over, actually.
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Post by bcg1969 on Jan 21, 2008 14:06:34 GMT -5
Thanks so much for that link, That is a sweet set! Im getting it, Now how can I hack my dvd player? look online as in a google search for your dvd player name/model number and search for region hacks. some players allow this others don't. i believe Dustin posted a awhile back a link to a site that has a data base to search for dvd player hacks. pm him and ask him or if he remembers who posted it in case it wasn't him. it usually involves pressing in a code using the dvd remote.
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Post by dulcimerdude on Jan 21, 2008 15:01:10 GMT -5
If you buy an illegal bootleg instead of importing the legit version, then not only are you NOT supporting Don Coscarelli and Anchor Bay but you're taking hard-earned money out of their pockets. Do I own bootlegs? Sure. But do I also own the legit versions? Yes and several times over, actually. I have to disagree. If the product is not available here to buy, then I'm not taking any hard-earned money out of their pockets...Universal is. If they made it available here, I'd buy it here. Which is exactly why Don is in a legal battle with them over the rights. Again, I don't see where purchasing a region 2 DVD helps our cause in getting P2 released in region 1. For the record...I don't own any bootlegs of any kind. (Just a reminder, this is in the spirit of healthy debate...not trying to offend anyone or start an argument )
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Post by DustinM on Jan 21, 2008 19:33:31 GMT -5
I'm beginning to think that this isn't a matter of opinion. The movie is available to buy from a legal source. If you choose not to buy from that legal source for whatever reason, you are taking money from Don Coscarelli and Anchor Bay Entertainment. Your argument about where you have to buy it from is extremely weak, in my opinion. It's basically saying "Because I can't buy it from where I want to buy it from, I'm gonna steal it. And there's nothing wrong with my stealing it because it's not available at the place I want to buy it from."
Legal battle? That sounds epic, doesn't it? Too epic, in fact. From what I hear, there's nothing to battle about and nothing happening legality wise either. Universal rightfully owns the movie. Don wants to own the movie. There's no legal ground here for a battle to occur. Again, that's just what I hear. I think the whole 'legal battle' bit may have originated from Wikipedia.
Re-read your last line once more. If anything, purchasing a DVD from another region shows interest in the title internationally and greatly helps get the thing released. Do you think Anchor Bay would've re-released P1 and P3 here in R1 if their 2005 R2 Sphere Boxset didn't sell well? I'm thinking a big fat NO on that one.
(And I'm neither offended nor angry. This is simply a dialogue.)
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Post by vitaman2007 on Jan 21, 2008 19:55:45 GMT -5
Guaranteed, once all the Sphere Sets are sold out, they will release it here. Those companies are just double dipping into our wallets.
Yes, I do think they would have released P1 and P3, not because of the Sphere Set, but just because they could.
Do you think Universal is keeping track of how many units of the Sphere Set are being sold out of Europe? No chance. They're not even aware they have P2.
I reiterate, how can the Sci Fi Channel play it on American airways so easily. Don might be going through the wrong channels, maybe Sci Fi could broker the deal for him. That's after the Sphere Set sells out of course.
This is a capitalistic society, so it's natural for a company to want to make alot of money. I have nothing against the Phantasm Franchise, I'm a collector. Just follow the $$$ and it's easy to see why it's playing out this way.
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