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Post by dosequisxx on Mar 13, 2015 5:34:41 GMT -5
I've been thinking about this for a while and wondered what the rest of you thought. I've accepted that Oblivion would be the last one. The ending felt quite final to me: Mike dies, The Tall Man wins and Reg dutifully continues the good fight. But will Mike's flashback or new beginning (however you wish to interpret it, I think it's both)now be absent from the recap? That last scene was so powerful and cleverly included that I would hate to think it will now be ignored. From the Ravager trailers that we've seen, it looks like Reg is captured by the Tall Man and I'm thinking another Tall Man will walk through the spacegate to assess Mike, say something like "Your end approaches, but it is not yet". Takes Mike with him and puts another sphere in his head for one more game.
Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled with anticipation that we do have another Phantasm movie coming after thinking this series was done. But I hope Oblivion's ending isn't forever compromised because of the inevitable retconning.
Now, bring on Ravager baby!
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Post by playgames1970 on Mar 19, 2015 20:15:33 GMT -5
A few things I've heard about Ravager and few things from the trailer make me a little concerned about how it is going to look/feel/play. I worry a bit that it may try to become too big/epic in scale, when it has a budget of pennies, and will come off like a SyFy Channel movie or worse in quality.
For me, though, Oblivion is not an ending at all. I've partially come to a sliver of peace over how Oblivion cuts off, but I still can't fully accept it as a satisfactory ending, so getting SOME sort of continuation of what the heck is going on with Mike and the sphere inside of him and whatnot is welcomed. As noted above, though, I just hope the film itself doesn't look/feel like a bad TV movie or a "mockbuster" film, and I hope that Ravager does have a clear cut ending. I know that goes against some aspects of the previous films and themes, but I'd much prefer a definitive conclusion to the story of these characters than have some vaguely symbolic ending that doesn't conclude things, or have yet another jump scare at the end.
Both the fans of the series and the makers of the series have been at this since the 1970s, and let's not be grim/macabre, but let's not be unrealistic, either: Angus Scrimm doesn't have another one of these in him at the pace these are made.
Continue the story, and give it a true ending. That's my personal wish, anyway!
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Post by sgdragoon on Mar 20, 2015 11:49:44 GMT -5
See, I'm gonna be pretty much okay with whatever ending or non-ending they use. The whole quadrilogy (quintilogy?) has had strong elements of space/time travel, and previous beginnings have reversed or undone other endings already. And while in most film series this would bother the heck out of me, here, because of the nature of the films, I'm pretty much accepting of it, even happy with it. I'm viewing it the same way I view the Terminator Genisys reboot/remake. For almost any other franchise, I would find that sort of thing upsetting. But for a scifi movie about time travel? Sure, why not. Now where is my Terminator/Phantasm crossover, that's what I want to know... (maybe Dynamite comics could do one, crossovers are up their alley - or we could go back in time to when it was Dark Horse Comic's bread and butter).
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Post by DustinM on Mar 22, 2015 22:29:29 GMT -5
I don't think Ravager will ruin Oblivion's ending, but I also don't think Ravager is capable of changing or diminishing the brilliance that is Oblivion anyways. It might not wholly include or respect Oblivion's conclusion, but I'll forever dig it.
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Post by krakenslayer on Mar 23, 2015 7:45:54 GMT -5
I don't think it will ruin it. My feeling is that they are probably going to keep continuity with the ending of Phantasm 4 that had Mike "dying" or becoming a sphere-bound entity like Jody. The flashbacks, the apocalyptic vibe, and the melancholic ending will not be diminished; the Tall Man has "harvested" Mike, perhaps to groom him as his replacement, and -- in body, at least -- he is dead. There is no way he is getting back up with the contents of his head missing (unless they pull another "Reggie gets straight back up and dusts himself off" like at the start of P3, which there is no reason to do here).
I think the Mike we see in the trailers is going to turn out to be either a projection from that sphere the Tall Man took from his head, another iteration of Mike from another universe, or another minion/decoy sent to torment Reggie.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2015 10:57:53 GMT -5
A few things I've heard about Ravager and few things from the trailer make me a little concerned about how it is going to look/feel/play. I worry a bit that it may try to become too big/epic in scale, when it has a budget of pennies, and will come off like a SyFy Channel movie or worse in quality. it's my main worry; that V won't be of a piece with the others. that and i'd think hartman in the director's chair means we'll get more digital effects than we need. CGI in genre films (in my opinion) always looks cheap and i hate it. after 17 years i'm already seeing RAVAGER as separate from 1-4 as it is, and since don's technically not at the helm, it'll be easy for me to forget/discard the film if i dislike it. whatever they do will be fine with me.
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Post by hellnback on Jun 21, 2015 10:14:43 GMT -5
I had heard that it would ignore the ending of P4, the ice cream truck part. that P5 will start with the usual flashback told by either Reggie or Mike and then we would be shown what has happened since, such as the giant spheres destroying cities. Reggie is said to still be chasing the Tall Man. They might have Reg get the sphere back and take it back to where we left Mike.
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