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Post by scubasteve on May 15, 2009 10:35:51 GMT -5
I was just looking around for some shots of Oblivion - specifically Jebediah before he turns in the Tall Man - and I came across an Italian wiki and another horror film review site that has Jebediah listed as a doctor!! WTF??
I've not noticed this before and I'm not saying that this is a major point or anything, but has anyone else seen this?? Is it listed that way in the credits? I'll have to crack open oblivion later.
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Post by postmortem on May 16, 2009 0:26:58 GMT -5
I was just looking around for some shots of Oblivion - specifically Jebediah before he turns in the Tall Man - and I came across an Italian wiki and another horror film review site that has Jebediah listed as a doctor!! WTF?? I've not noticed this before and I'm not saying that this is a major point or anything, but has anyone else seen this?? Is it listed that way in the credits? I'll have to crack open oblivion later. Dear Steve, There is more truth to the doctor title than first meets the eye. Back when P3 was in its first script draft, Don had me do a little script doctoring. One suggestion entailed a field surgeon during the Civil War (and Mike Pearson as a dying soldier). The kindly, very human Army physician would be you know who. These ideas didn't make it into P3, but they morphed a little and were incorporated into P4! Then, in 1999, I wrote a "Phantasm" fan fiction piece, "The Portal," for Rick Elkin's Phantasm Anthology, with the blessings of Coscarelli. This story was a character study of Jebediah Morningside. And in it he is both a physician and an undertaker. Finally, from an historical perspective, undertakers of the 19th century had to sustain themselves by dabbling in other professions. They often rented out livery services, or were carpenters (thus the homemade construction of coffins). During the Civil War, modern embalming was just beginning to replace the practice of packing bodies with ice (too messy!), and this new "art" was performed by "embalming surgeons" who--out of necessity--were oftimes also field surgeons on the battlefield. It only makes sense that Jeb, or the Tall Man, would relish being in the midst of all this carnage, perhaps to stealthily acquire new minions. Good question, Steve.
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Post by scubasteve on May 16, 2009 5:38:44 GMT -5
Awesome answer! That was really interesting from a historical perspective and a phantasm history perspective. I suppose that it would make sense that an embalmer/undertaker would be medically qualified in some way in those days.
I had always assumed that it was the Tall Man in the flashback scene in P IV and as you say, a perfect place to collect new bodies and where no-one would notice.
thanks Kristen
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Post by hemidemi1 on May 16, 2009 17:54:53 GMT -5
What is to be remembered here is that Dr Jeb most certainly at the time of the Civil War was but a beginner...we all kno he was obsessed with life after death and somehow being able to play god (a trait of some doctors today) what better place to practice but amongst the many dying soldiers. And so...the Tallman...returning to take Jeb's initial place on the battlefield in the tent and possibly Mike being the first controlled human, could explain the obsession.
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