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Post by dosequisxx on Mar 5, 2021 9:38:44 GMT -5
Based on the other lucid responses that I've read on here and elsewhere, I would like to share what I think Ravager ultimately is about and if anyone needs to respond.
I have read that Don and Dan have said there are three timelines in Ravager. I agree. Timeline 1 is Reg walks out of the desert, looks for Mike, furnishes Timeline 2 - Reg in hospital, dementia, Mike cares for Reg. Timeline 3 - the real (After Oblivion) Mike looks for Reg apocalypse Timeline.
Timeline 1 stalls out when Timeline 3 begins. In Timeline 3, when Mike "burns"through" the hospital timeline, the hospital timeline is now "absorbed" by the Apocalypse timeline and tosses the 4-Barrel to Reg. Are we to take that as The Tall Man giving Mike and Jody, who immediately pulls up in the Cuda, to Reggie?, knowing the trade-off is that he dies in the real Dementia Timeline? If so, that's brilliant and an unexpected "Happy" ending for the series. Everyone gets what want.
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Post by RAH8K9 on Jan 19, 2022 18:05:23 GMT -5
The things about P5 that were confusing and not in the traditional "phantasm method" were:
-Reg returning from wherever he went to at the end of P4 -Reg's '70 Cuda turning into Jody's '71 Cuda -Jody having been revealed to be an imposter in P4 but back on their side -No importance given for Mike's cranial sphere -The Tall Man stating Tommy's funeral was in 1979 when it was 1978, the year Jody died
Overall, Reg jumping from one reality to another was confusing. He dies with Mike and Jody at his bedside in one dimension, is this the real world where it was all in his head, as The Tall Man taunted in P4?
Then there's the reality with Mike, Jody, and Rocky fighting The Tall Man's forces in 1998. This seems like the prime dimension that follows all the sequels.
Then there's the third dimension where Mike is talking to Reg about how he took care of him after Jody died and that Reg is suffering dementia. So we have the Real World, Nightmare World, and Dream World?
Eh, I thought Mike was the one caught in The Tall Man's phantasmal world where nothing is ever as it seems. In P5, that's all put on Reg.
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Post by playgames1970 on Feb 22, 2022 19:23:36 GMT -5
If nothing else, Ravager does make you think, forcing you to wonder about the various realities, dimensions, and so on. I admit I do have something of a problem with some of the approach in Ravager, but over the years since it was released I've softened on it a bit, and am glad it's out there, even if it's a challenging film to understand or fit in with the others.
In a certain sense I liken its impact on me to that of Alien: Covenant. That film did a lot of things with the mythology of the aliens that I don't exactly care for, and which I would do differently, but it did make me think a lot about things, which can have its own value, too, even if you're not fully sure about this or that or would have liked something in a film to be different than it is.
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