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Post by coolbreeze on Jan 14, 2009 12:37:19 GMT -5
Does anyone know where to get a hold of the script that Roger Avary wrote for Don for a Phantasm IV because it sounds awesome and I wanna read it.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jan 14, 2009 12:53:36 GMT -5
Here is a quote from an identical thread:
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Post by coolbreeze on Jan 14, 2009 13:24:58 GMT -5
d**n.
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Post by cryptkeeper2529 on Feb 5, 2009 17:01:21 GMT -5
Dustin was given Phantasm II script, which I'm assuming is the minor exception. What I herd is that Roger Avery wrote a Phantasm IV and Don loved it, but they retooled it to make it Phantasm V so Don could make a Phantasm IV as a prelude into it to renew interent in the series. Din't work, and as a result we've got a prelude into another film that was never made our ever so epic series finalle. I really wish they would jsut release the Phantasm's End script; it's the real & true Phantasm V so I really don't see the harm in it.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Feb 6, 2009 13:16:00 GMT -5
The way that I heard it goes like this:
Avary wrote a P4 script. It was large in scope, very violent. Don & Co. were not able to get the funding for it, so Don cooked up Oblivion, which is a scaled down affair within the $$ realm that was needed.
This is pretty close, word for word, what Don says in Phantasmagoria.
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Post by krakenslayer on Feb 7, 2009 8:06:48 GMT -5
The very fact that the script has not been allowed to leak in spite of the widespread phan interest inspires at least some vague hope that some of the concepts might be re-used in a future sequel.
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Post by DustinM on Feb 7, 2009 13:14:17 GMT -5
The very fact that the script has not been allowed to leak in spite of the widespread phan interest inspires at least some vague hope that some of the concepts might be re-used in a future sequel. Well, we must consider that the vast majority of unproduced film scripts never leak. As a matter of fact, I'd safely say that less than 1% leak. Of the thousands of scripts purchased each year by studios and directors, etc., so many of them never come to fruition. And the fan interest in seeing an unproduced script is really of little importance to the filmmakers. Filmmaking is obviously a business, far more than a creative pursuit. So letting fans see your work for free, leaking a script, is never an attractive option. And really, scripts almost only leak when they fall into the hands of an irresponsible person. Leaking mean they become available en masse to the general public, something I feel is different than being traded amongst collectors privately. Most writers will give their scripts to friends, script doctors, directors, actors, studios, etc. These are all people who have a vested interest in seeing the film be made and not spoiled by having it's script leaked. Even long after the film is no longer a possibility, there's still nothing attractive about having it leaked. The Phantasm II script I have has been leaked to the general public and I bought it for something like $10. It actually came with a free Bride of Re-Animator script which I think I have since tossed. The Phantasm II script is available in shops around the country and through some online vendors, I'm sure. If I'd ever been given a script by someone, it would likely be a discreet transaction and not something I'd openly discuss or describe on my website. Hollywood Book and Poster shop, they carry the P2 shooting script if anyone is interested.
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Post by cryptkeeper2529 on Feb 8, 2009 16:03:33 GMT -5
I actually am very interested in obtaining a copy of the Phantasm II shooting script, if you don't mind could you tell me where exactly I could find a place selling one?
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Post by cryptkeeper2529 on Mar 1, 2009 18:03:48 GMT -5
Come to think of it, do you think the script will be released if Phantasm V isn't made (which ot probobly won't)?
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Post by gopher in heat on Mar 1, 2009 23:04:08 GMT -5
Almost definitely not.
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Post by deadbydawn on Oct 11, 2010 19:34:21 GMT -5
I have this script, as well as the scripts to the other films, in PDF format. They're not very hard to find.
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Post by DustinM on Oct 11, 2010 20:55:02 GMT -5
I have this script, as well as the scripts to the other films, in PDF format. They're not very hard to find. You're kidding yourself if you say that P1999 hasn't been hard to find. You may have come by it easy... but it's never been easy to come by for general fans. Probably for the best as it's not very good. But I have heard that it's leaked in recent years along with Bubba Nosferatu. However, if by some chance you have a COMPLETE P1 script, you would have a holy grail of sorts. None of the cast have their original P1 script... not Angus Scrimm, Michael Baldwin, Bill Thornbury, Reggie Bannister, Kathy Lester, Lynn Eastman, Bill Cone, Ralph Richmond or Ken Jones. I've only ever been shown excerpts or stray pages. Welcome to Community.
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Post by deadbydawn on Feb 3, 2011 14:37:26 GMT -5
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Post by deadbydawn on Feb 17, 2011 9:17:37 GMT -5
Does anyone know where to get a hold of the script that Roger Avary wrote for Don for a Phantasm IV because it sounds awesome and I wanna read it. www.sendspace.com/file/s6hjtv
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Post by KillerSphere on Feb 17, 2011 14:58:51 GMT -5
Excellent 3rd post! +1 to you my good fellow.
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Post by krakenslayer on Feb 20, 2011 17:57:51 GMT -5
Does anyone know where to get a hold of the script that Roger Avary wrote for Don for a Phantasm IV because it sounds awesome and I wanna read it. www.sendspace.com/file/s6hjtv Sir, This is the most awesome thing anyone has ever posted on this forum. Ever. I salute you!
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Post by krakenslayer on Feb 20, 2011 19:57:30 GMT -5
Just finished reading it...
I thought it was great overall, in spite of some very corny one-liners. It had a Phantasm 3 kinda feel to it, which was my favourite Phantasm sequel. So that's a good thing. Overall it was warped, action packed and exciting, everything a Phantasm movie should be.
It was interesting how Avery referenced both James LeGros Mike and Michael Baldwin Mike as if they were different characters from slightly different realities. A fascinating concept that would have been cool to explore further.
Three issues I had, all of which are things that could have been changed with relatively minor tinkering and probably would not have gotten past Don when it actually came to directing it anyway:
SCRIPT SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!!!!:
1) The Tall Man shouldn't be this "funny". Yes, he does seem to have a bitterly cruel sense of humour at some points in the series, yet there is a vast gulf of difference between that and the childish word play like he indulges in here (e.g. "Don't mind me. I'm just trying to get A HEAD in life!"). Psychologically, that kind of humour exists in a social context (to make others laugh in order to be liked/sociable) yet the Tall Man does not seem to be a "social being". While he might find amusement in the games he plays with the petty humans, it is out of character for him to tell jokes.
2) There is not enough of Mike in there. I understand that Avery was trying to go easy on the back-story for new converts, without trying to get too deeply embroiled in recapping the complex twists and turns of Phantasm III and IV, but to have him almost absent from the plot for most of the movie (apart from a single message) only to show up dead three quarters of the way though and be discarded from the plot... well, that was a "f**k you" to fans on the scale of Alien 3's opening scenes, and would probably be even more confusing to newbies than just including him.
3) I didn't think much of the ending. I realise that these movies have a sort of tradition of ending on a twist, but that felt less like a cliffhanger and more like a nail in the coffin. It was too "final", much moreso than IV and without the mystery or the feeling of hope. That was almost mean-spirited, I thought.
All-in-all though, I had a blast reading it and imagining the scenes play out. There were some awesome ideas in there, many that were foreshadowed in Oblivion and some of which Don might hopefully include in the real PV, if and when that happens.
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Post by prymal on Feb 20, 2011 21:53:33 GMT -5
i wonder if Don will ever consider allowing novels based around Phantasm if the last never gets its chance? I realize Phantasm was intended for a visual experience and not everyone enjoys reading, but surely there would be enough profit to justify a limited release? What does everyone out there think??
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Post by lmsunshine on Feb 20, 2011 22:19:54 GMT -5
i wonder if Don will ever consider allowing novels based around Phantasm if the last never gets its chance? I realize Phantasm was intended for a visual experience and not everyone enjoys reading, but surely there would be enough profit to justify a limited release? What does everyone out there think?? I probably would not buy the book because of my schedule. I just don't have time to read a novel. It would take me weeks or possibly months. And by the time I get home, I'm too tired to read. I prefer something like Tales from Beyond the Pale "The Grandfather"audio drama series. I can listen to it @ work or in my car.
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Post by krakenslayer on Feb 21, 2011 11:27:11 GMT -5
I probably would not buy the book because of my schedule. I just don't have time to read a novel. It would take me weeks or possibly months. And by the time I get home, I'm too tired to read. I prefer something like Tales from Beyond the Pale "The Grandfather"audio drama series. I can listen to it @ work or in my car. A novel isn't a race to the end, though. It doesn't matter how long it takes you to finish it. Even just picking it up and reading a page or two every couple of days is fine. Novels that take the longest to read are usually the best: because it's with you for so long, you become more invested in it and it becomes almost like a comfort blanket you can turn to when you're tired or bored. I've just got done reading Lord of the Ring and it took me about three months all-told (I read some other stuff in-between Fellowship and Two Towers) and it was a great experience; so much so, that when I finally did finish it, it was sad, like losing an old friend.
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