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Post by hemitallman on Aug 30, 2007 20:50:09 GMT -5
Hello Phans, Pull up a chair kick back your feet because here it is. Well where to begin? Michael Myers lives in a home habitated in by an invalid and constant abusive drunk who is Michaels mother's boyfriend. Micaels sister Judith is the local town very *friendly* person, and Michaels mother is a stripper(a fact that dosen't go unnoticed by his classmates. Michael is picked un and bullied at school and enjoys wearing masks to hide his ugliness. He also enjoys torturing samll animals and photographing them. The only people Michael seems to care for are his babysister Boo and his mother. The real catylyst for the events that begin on Halloween night is an encounter with the school bully in the bathroom. He taunts Michael with inuendos concearning his mothers profession. The fight is broken up by the school principal. Instead of thank you Michael tells him "f**k You". After he is hauled to the office his mother who has apparently been called to the shool many times before is shown the remains of a dead cat he had brought to school. At this point a grungy unkept crack head esque Dr. Loomis is called in. Before he can speak to Michael though a key event occurs. Young Michael pursues the bully in stalker fashion into a desrted woods and beats him to death with a tree limb. All of this is unknown as later at the Myers house Michaels mom prepares to go to work and asks Judith to take clown suited Micael trick or treating. Instead Judith desides to spend time in bed with her boyfriend and tells Michael to go trick or treating alone. During there love making(humping session) Judith's boyfriend dawns the famous Shatner mask. While these events are occuring Micael is eating candy waiting for his mothers boyfriend to pass out drunk. He then duct tapes him while asleep and then slashes his throat. He then procedes to bash in the brains of Judiths boyfriend while he is making a sandwich at the kitchen table. Next he climbs the stairs goes to Judiths room and puts on the now dead boyfriends mask. He feels up his sister a bit and she thinks it is her boyfriend. When she realizes who it is he savagely stabs her to death. Michael is transfered to Smiths Grove where crack head Loomis becomes his doctor. At first Michael appears to act normal and claims to remember nothing of the killings. When his requests about leaving are denied he becomes silent. Loomis asks a nurse to watch Myers as he escorts his mother outside. Micael then stabs her to death with a fork. After this occurs Michaels mother commits suicide while watching old home movies of a once happy family. Micaels only protector is an orderly played by Danny trejo. 15 years later Micael is denied release and coincidently that same night Trejos replacement decides to rape a new female patient with the help of his hillbilly cousin in front of an unsecured Myers inside his cell. Myers kills them and escapes into the night,
Part 2 coming soon
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Post by hemitallman on Aug 30, 2007 22:22:14 GMT -5
I debated on how to write up this films second half and wanted to watch the film a second time before I did. I'll be very honest this film has very serious problems. First, none of the charcters are in any way likeable except for maybe Loomis in the second half. Laurie switches between acting like a very *friendly* person and the classic charcter that we know. Tommy Doyle is the only charcter that is almost exactly as we remeber him. I don't know what to say about this since the ending has changed but in this version Zombie goes to great lengthes to make us feel sympathy for Michael. So much so that ignors all other charcter development except a little time spent on Loomis. Honestly I did not care if any of the charcters died. I understand and believe that Zombie loves this character but films that have no concearn for victims simply are not scary. They may be gruesome but not scary. The second half does move the fim from a D- to a solid C+ but it turns my stomach to give Halloween a grade like that. Here are my personal biases up front. I love John Carpenter and Halloween and Phantasm 2 are my alltime favorite movies in the genre. I also am a big fan of Rob Zombies music and felt he made progress with devil's rejects. Now that all that has been said I'll be blunt. Zombies Halloween is only superior in comparison to Halloween Resurection. Yes even Halloween six is superior. Rob please tell me that you fixed this thing with the reshoots. Finally, this is my plea to John Carpenter. If what I viewed was indicitive of what this film will be like please take back control. You had to take the reins from Rick Rosenthall with Halloween 2. Please do not let someone destroy this while you are still able to direct. Wheter it is producing a direct sequel to your on original or remaking this again yourself and ignoring this atrocious mess please do it. I'm telling you people this is the equivelant of Don handing Phantasm over to Uwe Boll. Rob Zombie I'll say my goodnight prayers and in them I will ask the Tall Man to shrink you down and exile you to the red planet. if not I know a bald midde aged ex icecream vendor who has a quad barrel waiting.
Good God what a mess.
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Post by hemitallman on Aug 30, 2007 22:47:47 GMT -5
Bloody Disgusting has posted a review on the version to be released in theaters. Surprise, it's not very good. Right now the movie is getting a 1 and a half star rating. What a f**k**g train wreck. Pardon my french.
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Post by 4barrelhemi on Aug 30, 2007 23:18:36 GMT -5
I'm sorry what was Zombie thinking when he wants us to feel sorry for Michael Myers? ? I knew this would happen somehow I just knew itthey would screw it up and make it where he would be a victim and we should all think awww what a bad life he had it's not really his fault he's like this. Don please please PLEASE NEVER let anyone touch the Phantasms.
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Post by Natalie on Aug 30, 2007 23:23:31 GMT -5
Zombie should not have ever even thought about a remake. He can't even make the movie scary, just totally bloody. Throughout the movie I never even flinched once or jumped in my seat. He made the movie so predictable.
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Post by hemitallman on Aug 30, 2007 23:29:34 GMT -5
In the movie you always no where Michael is. Noone in haddonfield for some reason pays any attention to a guy who is 6ft 8 wearing a rotting mask. He just walks around dosen't even really try to hide. He dosen't drive a vehicle like in the ifrst one. Cme t think of it I don't evn know how he got to Haddonfield. All it is really are a lot of gruesome shots of a giant killing people you feel you should know because of their names but yet you don't care at all. Most of those who die really were'nt in much of a position to garner his attention.
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Post by Natalie on Aug 31, 2007 0:01:18 GMT -5
Mr. Coscarelli better keep Phantasm in a vault. I don't want anyone else touching it, or even thinking about it other than him.
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Post by hemitallman on Aug 31, 2007 0:05:51 GMT -5
well said.
Michael Myers RIP
1978-2007
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Post by 4barrelhemi on Aug 31, 2007 0:29:05 GMT -5
If this thing bombs they can forget a sequel or making it a franchise again.
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Post by mac on Aug 31, 2007 1:37:56 GMT -5
I think rest assured this is going to flop bad and join the ranks of being an embarassment to the original film
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Post by 4barrelhemi on Aug 31, 2007 1:48:09 GMT -5
From what I've read it makes me long for the days of the Thorn story line.
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Post by tannerboyle on Sept 3, 2007 22:03:01 GMT -5
Well....I haven't seen it yet. And--I'm going to be honest here: I've been hot for this movie since I heard about it a few months ago. Rob Zombie had never let me down, and the way I saw it--if ANYONE could give a Halloween remake justice, it would be him. I got cockblocked from seeing this movie all weekend by events beyond my control....including a chance at a sneak preview on Thursday night. At first I thought it was just extreme bad luck...but, the more I hear about this movie, it sounds like I've been experiencing more good luck than bad. Hey--Rob's given us some great s**t in the past.....and, in the not so distant past, either. He had to screw up sometime. Maybe this was it... I'll let you guys know what I think after I sneak on down to see it later in the week.
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Post by 4barrelhemi on Sept 3, 2007 23:20:22 GMT -5
I have to ask this question. It was so important to show us how he got his jumpsuit and all.
Why was it not equally important to show us how exactly he got to Haddonfield? I mean am I susposed to believe he just took Joe Grizzly's rig and drove there? This coming from a guy who has never even drove a car???
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Post by gomer on Sept 4, 2007 0:06:25 GMT -5
What a turd of a movie. I just got back from seeing it and man oh man it was bad. Michael Myers acted more like jason in this movie than anything else. Normaly when Mike comes to a locked door he either finds another way or punches a hand through it to unlock it not blow the d**n thing off its hinges. Honestly was the truck stop scene truly needed? okay also if I remember right when Mike was a kid it was like 1973 or something right. okay so then after he kills 6 months pass with the good Dr. Loomis. okay so then 15 years pass by but Loomis says he had been with Mike for 17 so...... HOW IN THE HELL DID THE ONE GIRL HAVE A CELL PHONE? Wouldnt it only make it at least 1990 and cell phones were not that modern looking back then. Also it seemed that Zombie tried to make up for the first act by cramming everything into the last act.
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Post by 4barrelhemi on Sept 4, 2007 1:16:04 GMT -5
Nice mini review I couldn't agree more!
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Post by Natalie on Sept 4, 2007 9:43:01 GMT -5
I totally agree with that. What was Zombie thinking?
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Post by gopher in heat on Sept 4, 2007 11:37:11 GMT -5
What a turd of a movie. I just got back from seeing it and man oh man it was bad. Michael Myers acted more like jason in this movie than anything else. Normaly when Mike comes to a locked door he either finds another way or punches a hand through it to unlock it not blow the d**n thing off its hinges. Honestly was the truck stop scene truly needed? okay also if I remember right when Mike was a kid it was like 1973 or something right. okay so then after he kills 6 months pass with the good Dr. Loomis. okay so then 15 years pass by but Loomis says he had been with Mike for 17 so...... HOW IN THE HELL DID THE ONE GIRL HAVE A CELL PHONE? Wouldnt it only make it at least 1990 and cell phones were not that modern looking back then. Also it seemed that Zombie tried to make up for the first act by cramming everything into the last act. I think you're a little confused here... in Zombie's version, when we see little Mike it is set in the early 90's. Seventeen years later, it is present time and this is when we see Laurie and her pals with cell phones. Also, I'm going to go out on a lonely limb here and say that I didn't think it was half bad. Was it perfect? No way. Was it great? Probably not. But that doesn't mean it's horrible or a turd. Sure the movie had some flaws... most do (especially horror movies). A lot of people complain that it doesn't show how Michael got to Haddonfield... but in my opinion, leaving that a mystery is way better than having him suddenly know the inner workings of a car and being able to navigate it all the way back to his hometown. By simply leaving out how he got back, we as viewers are able to wonder that on our own. Maybe he walked... who knows. I don't need to be led by the hand through every scene. Put simply, Zombie makes it ANY possibility in how he got to Haddonfield instead of locking into a ridiculous and unbelievable means. The biggest flaw in the movie is the lack of character development (aside from Micheal). Personally, I think they should have tacked on another 30 minutes or so to flesh out Laurie, the sheriff, and her friends. Loomis was pretty well developed, but I would have liked to have seen even more with him. He was the best part of the movie (just like in the original in my opinion). The back story, I loved it. Obviously the better half of the film, but again I think the 2nd half was decent only it needed some of the improvements I listed above. Another thing about this movie I loved is the dramatic changes Zombie made... like the ending, which to me at least made it clear that Laurie killed Micheal with a shot to the head. Sure, this made Micheal a mortal instead of an unkillable demon... but that made this film refreshing in a sense. Oh yes, I just remembered another gripe a lot of people had with this movie. They complain about how Micheal knew what Laurie looked like when she was older. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't that the exact same case in the original? Doesn't seem fair to rip apart a remake for the identical flaws the original contained. Overall, the remake of Halloween isn't the original, and that's what people should expect going in. It encapsulates some key scenes from the original, while delving into Mike's past and repackaging it in a new form. It's 1000% better than the last few entries into the series, and for that I think people should be a little more forgiving and appreciative. Obviously if I had to pick between the original and the remake, I'd pick the original instantly. But as an alternative, Zombie's take on Halloween is pretty d**n cool. My verdict: 7.5/10 Last word of advice for people who have yet to see it... don't go in with all these pre-conceived ideas of how it "sucks". Go in with an open mind, and try not to expect the best movie ever made. That's what I did, and I left the theatre rather pleased.
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Post by gomer on Sept 4, 2007 13:30:03 GMT -5
I guess it did say 90 or something i could have swoorn 70 something but anyway.
I did go into it open minded. every remake i try and do that with. but this one just left me cold. I didnt care for any of the characters at all. Not even Loomis or Laurie.
Also Laurie was dumbed down alot in this movie. I just hate that when all the Female characters are these like scream queens.
Also just a little side not i thought it was very odd that the Myers had a bigg swimming pool in their back yard. I thought they were suposed to be somewhat poor.
Also can Zombie please bring in some new actors insted of using the same people in every movie he does.
Ill give it some props though I was sort of suprised when it wasnt Michael first in the ghost sheet.
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Post by 4barrelhemi on Sept 4, 2007 14:07:52 GMT -5
My thing is in the original theatrical version there was no indication she was Michaels sister at all so that wasn't a question of how did he know who she was and what she looked like. Also I guess another thing that bothers me is like you said Rob wants us to believe Michael in this one is a mortal just a guy thats a psychopath right? Well then it goes off having him shot 4 times and stabbed and he gets right back up like nothing has happened and keeps on with his reign of terror. I know he got shot and stabbed in the original but none of that happened until the very end of the movie. The stabbing I can understand because that isn't going to stop any psychopath. Being shot 3 times with a 357 Magnum at close range will put a man down and keep him there
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Post by mac on Sept 4, 2007 15:43:51 GMT -5
Thats right, Loomis found out about the connection between Michael and Laurie in Halloween II when the woman revealed the information that had previously been sealed and unaccessable.
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