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Post by OblivionGoon on Aug 29, 2008 21:54:55 GMT -5
If you listen to the new Oblivion commentary track, Reggie hints on something that Don immediatly goes quiet on. Reggie starts to talk about how everytime Mike sees a field of space gates, they increase in numbers. According to Reg, it has something to do with Mike "tripping" throught them. What does that mean?
Right now, until I give this more thought, my only guess is that Mike is setting the gates off. His abilities are meshing with the gates, causing them to resonate and therefore multiply.
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Post by postmortem on Aug 29, 2008 22:20:56 GMT -5
You're right, OG. Everytime Mike goes back into another time or reality, the gates multiply. Consider it like quantum universes, each offshoots of the first based on various choices--and changes--made. But mainly, think of this as due to Mike's increasing abilities--all with an untrained mind. Mike has no mentor. He's discovering and testing things at random, with no guidance, and this is bound to cause problems/ripples--thus the multiple gates.
Speaking of those gates, I still remember the sun going down, and the wind/dust blowing so hard we could barely move or keep our eyes open. And there I was, along with Coscarelli, pulling up these spacegate poles as fast as we could and loading them into a pickup truck. It was so dark out there come nightfall--we didn't want to be stranded out there. It felt good, though, wrapping things up at the end of a long, hard day of work in the desert.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Aug 29, 2008 22:30:47 GMT -5
Well, that's riveting to say the least.
Mike is destroying the things he is trying to figure out. He goes through one gate, comes back and now there are 50. Even if he goes through that same gate again, it *should* take him to a different place. I would even go as far to say that the gates change constantly.
Do you think that this is a symptom of what The Tall Man is doing? Or is it just the way the gates work?
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Post by postmortem on Aug 29, 2008 23:15:16 GMT -5
Do you think that this is a symptom of what The Tall Man is doing? Or is it just the way the gates work? What am I, a quantum physicist? IMO, Mike shouldn't be messing with the timeline. Going back to find Jebediah, summoning spacegates without not really knowing how/why they work, all are like fractures in the smooth surface of a mirror--and thus the multiple gates being created (as opposed to summoned). Another theory would be that the Tall Man is making all these gates appear just to frustrate Mike's efforts. Because... truly... where DO they lead? I wouldn't want to step through blindly to find out... I love how "Phantasm" makes one THINK.
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Post by 4barrelhemi on Aug 30, 2008 8:37:26 GMT -5
Sounds like Mike is going through a trial by error type deal with the multiple gates. Probably not the best thing to do but when you've got a Tall Man and dwarves after you what can you do?
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Post by playdrums on Aug 30, 2008 11:34:49 GMT -5
Sounds like Mike is going through a trial by error type deal with the multiple gates. Probably not the best thing to do but when you've got a Tall Man and dwarves after you what can you do? probably not ;D
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Post by OblivionGoon on Aug 31, 2008 22:10:26 GMT -5
Mike is causing the ripples in the space-time continuum by going through the space gates. He is going back and trying to find the origins of Tally, but these things he wants to know evne though he was not meant to know them. I don't think that he is so much messing with the timeline as much as he is messing with the way that things will play out. He goes through one, comes back, and now there are 50? It's really baffling. At the end, Mike hears himself through dimensions. This tells me that things have gotten weaker, the boundaries between worlds are not as strong as they once were (like in P1&P2). It might even be possible that if Mike keeps traveling through the gates, causing them to multiply to a uncountable number, the current dimension could implode on itself. Since the current dimension is what Mike was born and lived in, his life in that dimension would cease to exist. This could possibly explain what happens in the end. Mike "died" in the current dimension, but he is able to live "again" in another dimension (the one we see at the end of Oblivion).
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Post by postmortem on Aug 31, 2008 22:48:38 GMT -5
OG, that's really quite impressive! I've found my mental soulmate for all things "Phantasm"! ;D
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Post by OblivionGoon on Aug 31, 2008 22:57:35 GMT -5
That's why I love Oblivion so much, such a masterpiece.
I enjoy these philosophical musings. They entertain me.
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Post by playdrums on Sept 3, 2008 7:17:59 GMT -5
Me and my dad have watched Phantasm IV meany times, I still dont think he understands anything
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