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Post by gopher in heat on Nov 21, 2008 19:18:26 GMT -5
Am I the only one that wishes for complete and total resolution between the Pearson brothers?
I think back fondly on P1 where they're so close... Mike constantly fearing that Jody will leave him, the scene after Mike runs back home (after the Sally & Suzy scene) and Jody embraces him, them cruising together shooting down the hearse with no driver... they were just so close, and it saddens me that in the subsequent films Mike has a constant animosity toward Jody almost. There was never any closure in P4, aside from Jody saying he had died in the car wreck.
What I really want is to see Jody and Mike back on brotherly terms, taking the Tall Man out together much as they did in P1 with the abandoned mine shaft.
Anybody have any feelings on this issue?
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Post by 4barrelhemi on Nov 22, 2008 13:45:38 GMT -5
Yeah I agree that would be cool. Both of them plus Reggie really were a team and very close.
I think after all Mike had been through in the films and thinking Jody was dead for so long he probably felt something was wrong or he couldn't trust him which he later tells Reggie.
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Post by Natalie on Nov 23, 2008 21:50:22 GMT -5
I agree as well. I would like to see them together again.
I remember a thread about Mike and Jody, but I can't remember the title, so I'll write this here: I was thinking, you know how the fortune teller told Mike in P1 not to worry about Jody leaving, that when he does, he'll take him with him? Well, maybe the fortune teller knew that Jody was going to be taken by the Tall Man. That is Jody "leaving". And then he tried taking Mike back to the Tall Man to be transformed into his kind in P4. Maybe that is the "he'll take you with him" part....?
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Post by postmortem on Nov 25, 2008 1:06:03 GMT -5
Natalie, you totally get it! There was always this sense of implied menace in that statement. Every time I ever heard that prediction "He'll take you with him," I sensed it meant Mike being taken into death to follow in the steps of his brother. Death, or worse... the Tall Man's version of the afterlife.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Nov 25, 2008 8:47:52 GMT -5
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Post by cryptkeeper2529 on Dec 6, 2008 0:02:19 GMT -5
When it comes to Mike and Jody I'm kinda torn, although I totally love the point made from the fortune teller intertwining with what the Tall Man has done. If this wasn't something so few fans recall or put together. Although I think it would be cool to intertwine the Fortune Teller in with The Tall Man, especially since she was apparently to Jedidiah (maybe he took her through the portal as well?).
Your definitely not the only one who desires closure, although I don't see much that can be done for Jody aside for some small explanations as to how he was manipulated and such, or if The Tall man controlled him all along but there were times when he was able to break free from his grasp (or just when he wasn't paying attention).
The other thing is that I see the original movie as kind of it's own thing and Phantasm II is kinda where things take off. Jody was dead and I think the flick did fine. I understand the whole brother/friendship bond of it all but I also loved the romantic and vigilante justice angle of Part 2. When Jody came back it just didn't really feel right. Not so much because it was a lame trade off for Liz but it just felt so out of place. I loved Jody in the first flick and I'm not saying he shouldn't have been involved in anything past the first, but him coming back just felt so awkward. Should he be in Phantasm V I feel it should be more minor. He did die twice now.
My Theory: Little can truly be explained about the first movie, but Jody I'm sue did die in a car crash. He was buried in Morningside cemetery thereby explaining how The Tall Man would be able to harvest him. Although Phantasm III brings Jody in as a good guy, I'm going to abide by Phantasm IV's random "he's evil" thing and say The Tall Man was keeping Jody as a way to lure Mike to him, manipulating Jody a lot of the time. When he dies in Oblivion he states that he did die in a car wreck, possibly meaning that Mike's Jody was from there on out, and this was simply a puppet and shell of who Mike had once been so close to.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Dec 30, 2008 21:40:18 GMT -5
The more times I watch the quartet (not a classical reference, I promise ) I am starting to think that I prefer Mike and Jody going different ways. Jody was kind of shady to begin with, and just add the influence of The Tall Man in there, and it's a bad cocktail. I'm not saying that Jody was a horrible person, but there was a time where he didn't really care about anything but himself. Now that he is on the nefarious side of the spectrum, it's a magnified trait. Every time that we see Jody talk to Mike, he tells him something different about his abduction. Mike can see this, that is his reasoning for cutting the ties. I think this is another motivation for Mike defeating The Tall Man, if he can defeat him then he can find out what really happened to Jody.
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Post by cusackclass on Mar 10, 2009 22:21:39 GMT -5
I agree, their relationship in part 1 was really amazing. My favorite scene has to be after the dwarfs attack the car and throw Michael out the back window. I loved how in some strange way (as commented on before) Jody seems to almost will Mike back to life and how he gets up and starts running down the dark road. I liked how in the opening of part III in which the brothers met again (Mike looking out the window of the Cuda and seeing Jody standing in the rain, then the scene at Reggie's house when Mike turns into the ball trying to protect him) then in part IV bang! He's evil. Their storyline is a bit hazy but I did like how it finally dawned on Mike that Jody did die in the car wreck and was taken over by the Tall Man. The entire time he sensed that Jody was really leading and working against him to bring him to the Tall Man. His ending was sudden but I always loved the line "I just had to make sure...before I killed my own brother." If there is ever a part V maybe they can clear up on some of this stuff.
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Post by scubasteve on Mar 11, 2009 7:40:14 GMT -5
I like the way that the two grow apart to the state of animosity. It gives more credability to how the Tall Man is corrupting life across the planet through the various films and places it on a very real level. If we just saw what he was doing to others, there wouldn't be much to relate to on a personal note with the film. It tears apart two people who are very close lending more sympathy to the films' main character, Mike.
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