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Post by spherical on Jun 24, 2008 11:33:32 GMT -5
TRUE HORROR is dead. yeah, its all dumb teens getting killed now I hate modern horror with a passion. To me, everything died in the mid nineties, P4 apart.
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Post by mirai on Jun 24, 2008 11:50:47 GMT -5
thats why i'm into low budget and indipendant horror movies
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Post by spherical on Jun 24, 2008 12:03:46 GMT -5
thats why i'm into low budget and indipendant horror movies You're WISE. I loved 'CABIN FEVER', for instance.
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Post by mirai on Jun 24, 2008 12:12:41 GMT -5
thats why i'm into low budget and indipendant horror movies You're WISE. I loved 'CABIN FEVER', for instance. i wasnt too keen on it, i mean its a unique idea, but it started to go into Evil Deadesque territory
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jun 24, 2008 21:49:33 GMT -5
I actually liked House of 1000... As for Land of The Dead, it was okay. Good idea it just seems that Romero was held back on the film. I still need to watch Diary.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jun 24, 2008 23:53:38 GMT -5
I'm not sure where everyone stands on this, but one of my favorite dead films is the 2004 Dawn of The Dead, I thought the film was awesome. I remember watching it in theaters, at the end I was so excited that they were able to get to the island, then the camera drops and we see what happens. It makes you wonder how the infection spread onto the island? Another scene I love is the beginning sequence when she gets off of work at the hospital and her daughter ends up being infected, that whole sequence makes it more personal for me. You just don't get gory zombie action, but you see how it really affects people on a family level. The baby zombie was pretty d**n creepy too. I just love that flick.
I guess I should add that for it not being an actual "Romero" film, it is pretty good compared to what else is out there.
I'm sure that everyone is going to tell me this so I will go ahead and say it, I REALLY need to see the original Dawn.
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Post by gopher in heat on Jun 25, 2008 1:00:01 GMT -5
I'm not sure where everyone stands on this, but one of my favorite dead films is the 2004 Dawn of The Dead, I thought the film was awesome. I remember watching it in theaters, at the end I was so excited that they were able to get to the island, then the camera drops and we see what happens. It makes you wonder how the infection spread onto the island? Another scene I love is the beginning sequence when she gets off of work at the hospital and her daughter ends up being infected, that whole sequence makes it more personal for me. You just don't get gory zombie action, but you see how it really affects people on a family level. The baby zombie was pretty d**n creepy too. I just love that flick. I guess I should add that for it not being an actual "Romero" film, it is pretty good compared to what else is out there. I'm sure that everyone is going to tell me this so I will go ahead and say it, I REALLY need to see the original Dawn. The DAWN remake is pretty watchable. My only huge gripe with it is the running zombies... dead things can't move like that. To me, it was more of an action flick rather than a horror film, and that's ok. It works for that movie. And you're right, you absolutely MUST watch the original DAWN. It's my favorite movie of all time. Whenever I hear about someone who hasn't seen it, I always want to go and buy the DVD for them just so they can experience it ASAP!
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jun 25, 2008 1:03:18 GMT -5
I agree with the zombies running, that actually ties into my main issue with Land. I understand Romero's idea that eventually the zombies, like anything else, will evolve and be able to to more. I just don't like how all of a sudden they figure stuff out so quick. I think that he should have done a little more backstory explaining how they learn and how long it has taken them. The water scene is bad ass.
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Post by gopher in heat on Jun 25, 2008 1:14:17 GMT -5
The biggest issue with LAND I think is that it's on too grand of a scale. I think a lot of what made Romero's other DEAD films work is the seclusion of the characters from the world. In NIGHT they were trapped in a farm house... in DAWN, a shopping mall... in DAY, an underground bunker. All of a sudden with LAND, we have an entire city that's completely full of people. I never really felt concerned for the saftey of the survivors.
Another issue that bugged me with LAND is Romero's use of CGI for everything. I can almost forgive him using CGI on some of the more difficult effects, but for every freaking headshot?! No way man. Practical effects not only work better, they look better. And I challenge anyone to find a CGI shot in any zombie movie that surpasses the faceless zombie at the beginning of DAY. It can' t be done.
All that said, LAND is still a pretty solid film. I agree with whoever it was who said Romero works better with a shoestring budget. DIARY on the other hand... well, that one was just a total letdown.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jun 25, 2008 1:41:31 GMT -5
I agree.
I must admit, I do not care for DAY. It was just too slow moving. Once the zombies start getting loose and all it picks up and I enjoy it. I do love the opening scene, a desolate town with zombies on the loose, classic.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jun 25, 2008 1:46:06 GMT -5
Gopher, are you a fan of the "Living Dead" films?
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Post by mirai on Jun 25, 2008 8:07:01 GMT -5
the thing that bugged me about the Day remake was the zombies crawling along the walls
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Post by gopher in heat on Jun 25, 2008 11:10:43 GMT -5
Gopher, are you a fan of the "Living Dead" films? No, I'm not actually. Believe me, I've tried to get into other series and films within the zombie genre and not many can compete with Romero's. There are some gems out there though. I happen to really enjoy Zombi 2 and Burial Ground (both Italian) for instance.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jun 25, 2008 14:23:16 GMT -5
Cholo wanted the money so that he could move into Fiddler's Green, the super swanky hi rise. If you watch the scene where the zombies break into the Green, there are stores and stuff like a mall. I would have to guess that they went out into the town and took everything from the stores like they did with the food. Man, I would love to have free access to a liquor store... with cigars, yum.
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Post by gopher in heat on Jun 25, 2008 15:43:57 GMT -5
The biggest issue with LAND I think is that it's on too grand of a scale. I think a lot of what made Romero's other DEAD films work is the seclusion of the characters from the world. In NIGHT they were trapped in a farm house... in DAWN, a shopping mall... in DAY, an underground bunker. All of a sudden with LAND, we have an entire city that's completely full of people. I never really felt concerned for the saftey of the survivors. Another issue that bugged me with LAND is Romero's use of CGI for everything. I can almost forgive him using CGI on some of the more difficult effects, but for every freaking headshot?! No way man. Practical effects not only work better, they look better. And I challenge anyone to find a CGI shot in any zombie movie that surpasses the faceless zombie at the beginning of DAY. It can' t be done. All that said, LAND is still a pretty solid film. I agree with whoever it was who said Romero works better with a shoestring budget. DIARY on the other hand... well, that one was just a total letdown. My problem with LOTD is that Romero was so busy probably placating the various big name actors, he let things slide. I kept thinking for instance, if the zombie timeline of LOTD was correct, wouldnt most technology and cultural changes either cease or stagnate around 1970? But everywhere there were brand new vehicles, computers, new HD televisions etc etc. Who the hell was making these things while zombies were taking over the world? And just why did Cholo want to extort money from Dennis Hopper in the movie? What the hell would he do with it? And why did everything need to be explained over and over. Like when the disfigured friend of the hero explains to a new recruit the need for shooting fireworks. Was this some kind of secret? It just seemed like in most cases they had to explain everything for the multitude of Rob Zombie fans out there. The thing with Romero's DEAD films is that they aren't set in any particular solid time frame. It's not so much about the year in which these films take place, it's about the stage in which the world has fallen apart. For instance, DIARY is a return back to the original night when everything started, but the film was set in modern times, not 1968.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jun 25, 2008 16:18:08 GMT -5
Okay I just watched the trailer for the original Dawn, I'm sold, gonna pick it up on the way to work.
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Post by gopher in heat on Jun 25, 2008 18:08:09 GMT -5
Okay I just watched the trailer for the original Dawn, I'm sold, gonna pick it up on the way to work. Ah yes, a wise investment good friend! You won't regret it. For me, it's the type of movie I can watch anytime and not ever get bored with it. As Roger (from the film) might say, it's... "Perfect baby... perfect." ;D
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Post by The Never Dead on Jun 25, 2008 18:31:13 GMT -5
Okay I just watched the trailer for the original Dawn, I'm sold, gonna pick it up on the way to work. If you have the cash, get the Dawn of the Dead Ultimate Edition set. An amazing set, it is. ;D
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Post by spherical on Jun 25, 2008 18:38:34 GMT -5
I was pretty known among the Romero's Zombies fandom because I developed a theory on the timeline the series is set, a very fascinating one. Anyway, do you know if they are gonna release a new DVD set for the various versions of the original 'DAWN', by the way?
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jun 25, 2008 19:48:03 GMT -5
Well, I went to Best Buy on the way into work tonight, they didn't have it. They did have that new remake of Day, looks pretty crappy. Anywho, I decided to order the Special Edition off of Amazon. They are usually pretty fast with shipping, should have it by saturday. I am psyched to see this, the trailer that I saw was about 5mins long and it looked incredible. <------- (Angry at self for never seeing this).
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