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Post by OblivionGoon on Jun 25, 2008 19:53:58 GMT -5
Oh, I watched Day again this morning. I really don't give that film enough credit. It's a decent flick, I still think it's a tad slow moving in the start.
Did anyone else notice that when the zombie comes out of the building with the gator in front that all of a sudden the gator's mouth is closed and taped up? Pretty funny, gators are actually rather docile compared to croc's and other large reptiles. I also love the scene when the doctor is teaching the zombie to press the play button on the tape recorder, zombies just don't look right listening to walkman's. One scene that still makes me sad is when the army guys kill the doctor and his zombie gets upset, sad.
So I guess that as it stands here is my ranking (without seeing the original Dawn or Diary)
NIGHT NIGHT (Remake, late 80's?) DAWN (Remake) LAND DAY
I am guessing that Dawn will top this after I see it, can't friggin wait.
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Post by The Never Dead on Jun 25, 2008 20:08:37 GMT -5
You'll love Dawn, man. A lot of people call it overrated, I call it a masterpiece. It is seriously my bible.
The Night remake was filmed in late '89 I believe & released in 1990. It's a remake that's hella good. A lot of the people involved in the original were on hand for it so that's why. And Savini helmed it, which is badical too.
I love Day but it is a tad slow in parts. The make-up & effects are amazing though. Probably my favourite in the whole "Dead" series(including remakes).
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jun 25, 2008 20:13:18 GMT -5
I thought the Night remake was bad*ss.
Something I noticed when I watched the Dawn trailer, Dario Argento(sp?) was involved with it and it was called "Zombi: Dawn of the Dead" is Zombi 2 a sequel or just unrelated coincidence?
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Post by The Never Dead on Jun 25, 2008 20:25:04 GMT -5
Zombi 2 is the same as the movie Zombie(what Zombi 2 is called here in the States). Zombi 2 is an unofficial sequel to Zombi: Dawn of the Dead. That particular version of Dawn is a tad different from the regular version.
From IMDb:
Italian version (121 min., editing supervised by Dario Argento) and US-version (126 min., editing supervised by George Romero) have a different soundtrack and a different overall tone: Romero's version has some humour in it and is more horror-oriented, Argento deleted all funny scenes and made the film more action-oriented.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jun 25, 2008 20:27:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jun 25, 2008 21:47:53 GMT -5
I just about spit my apple across the room.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jun 25, 2008 22:09:07 GMT -5
Cholo wanted the money so that he could move into Fiddler's Green, the super swanky hi rise. If you watch the scene where the zombies break into the Green, there are stores and stuff like a mall. I would have to guess that they went out into the town and took everything from the stores like they did with the food. Man, I would love to have free access to a liquor store... with cigars, yum. But thats the point. Why buy when everything is laying around waiting to be picked up. So he couldnt live in the high rise? Theres like fifty more high rises just waiting to be fixed up. I know its only a movie lol I agree, but Fiddler's Green is thee highrise. It's like the Ritz of the zombie world.
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Post by gopher in heat on Jun 26, 2008 0:35:25 GMT -5
If you have the cash, get the Dawn of the Dead Ultimate Edition set. An amazing set, it is. ;D Id recommend watching Argentos European version. Its actually the version I prefer since there is more action and less message. I have to respectfully disagree. All versions are good, but I find that the ones with the longest running time are the best. There are several cuts of the film floating around out there. And I think The Never Dead and I are long lost DAWN brothers or something, haha. You'll freaking love DAWN, and believe me when I say that you will continue to love it more and more as time passes. The NIGHT remake, as said, is really d**n good. Tony Todd's "Ben" almost equals that of Duane Jones from the original. I also sort of dig the twists they add in, such as the ending and the radical difference between Barbara from the original role.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jun 26, 2008 0:38:08 GMT -5
I like how Barbara stops being the victim and takes things into her own hands. The reason why so many people don't mind the remake it probably due to the fact that they stayed with the original formula, it still works, unlike many other remakes.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jun 29, 2008 1:13:18 GMT -5
Who deleted the funny post?
Anyways, my Dawn Ultimate will be here on Monday. I decided to pop in the Night color edition. Anyone else have it? I picked it up at Best Buy a few years back for maybe $10 at the most. The color is really rather decent. It's not like most of the BW films to go into color, maybe thats because Ted Turner wasn't in charge of the transfer.
Also, looks like Tony Todd is going to do one of Russo's "Living Dead" films, perhaps he can put life back into the series. I also just read that Duane Jones died at a rather young age, sad.
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Post by mirai on Jun 29, 2008 11:57:52 GMT -5
yeah, that was a bumer
i saw Return Of The Living Dead: Necropolis a few weeks ago the whole 'robot zombie' and the talking zombies bugged me
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Post by briggs on Jun 29, 2008 15:54:19 GMT -5
i saw Return Of The Living Dead: Necropolis a few weeks ago the whole 'robot zombie' and the talking zombies bugged me This does not follow the continuity of Romero's films, it follows the continuity of the "Return of the Living Dead" series, in which most zombies are able to speak short phrases (This series is where "Braaaaiiiinsss" originated) and in which there was a robot zombie introduced in the third installment. If anything bugs you it should be that the zombies were much more easily "destructible" in that one than in previous installments. (Then, a different numbered chemical was used in parts 4 and 5 than in previous installments)
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Post by mirai on Jun 29, 2008 15:56:34 GMT -5
in Necropolis one of the zombies has a full on conversation with someone before being fried and i did notice the change of numbers
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jun 30, 2008 20:36:46 GMT -5
The Russo films are much more comical and typical 80's horror. I enjoy them.
I finally got my Dawn of the Dead Ultimate Edition today in the mail. I literally ran into my room and thew the extended version into my DVD player. What a FANTASTIC film. It is the best Romero film by far, I finally understand all of the comotion surrounding the film. I found the extended version to be perfect. The remake does not hold a candle to the original, not event the same basis. I actually enjoyed the fact that people lived at the end and you are left to wonder what happened to them, again, perfect. Tom Savini is great in this one, I almost like him as the TV guy more than the biker. Ken Foree was great, he starts out as a hardass and then morphs throughout the movie into a fun loving guy, good stuff. I could really keep going on... I will probably watch the US Theatrical version tonight and post my thoughts on it. The extended version ran close to 2 hours, 2 hours of zombie action. This, next to the P4 release in August will probably be the best DVD I have bought in some time.
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Post by The Never Dead on Jun 30, 2008 20:43:53 GMT -5
Glad you liked it, man. I prefer the Extended Cut myself. More Dawn that way. Be sure to check out the documentaries. They're really good viewings.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jun 30, 2008 20:48:06 GMT -5
It really is quite a great box set, for a CHEAP price as well, I love Anchor Bay.
The Criteron stuff is soooo expensive.
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Post by gopher in heat on Jun 30, 2008 23:38:48 GMT -5
Awesome! I'm super happy you now see the light that is DAWN!!!
The end is great, but part of me really wishes that the original ending had been filmed. In case you don't know what that ending is, it pretty much plays out the exact same way... only instead of changing his mind, Peter shoots himself in the head, and then Fran puts her head up into the spinning helicopter blades. Actually, the dummy head that was made for this scene was used in the scene where Wooley blows off some guys head in the apartment building. Then, after Fran decapitates herself, the credits start rolling while the camera stays fixed on the helicopter... then at the end of the credits, the engine sputters and the blades whirl to a stop, telling us that even if Peter and Fran had escaped, they would have ran out of gas (and probably crashed) anyway. It would have been a downer end like NIGHT, and it might have had more impact. But even with the ending we do have, it's still magnificent in every aspect.
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Post by OblivionGoon on Jul 1, 2008 1:03:41 GMT -5
I would have really liked to have seen that. They most certainly leave it open to "did they run out of fuel" or "did they make it" I think they ran out of fuel and crashed into a ball of kerosene fire. It really is a great film. I wish the remake would have been named something else, it really strays away from the original. Now that I have watched the original twice, it's going to be hard for me to watch the remake and have the same feelings I had for it before I watched Dawn 78.
As for the original ending being a downer, are zombie flicks ever a pick me up kind of thing? I read that Romero denied the existence of even the idea of the original ending, apparently years later he admitted to it.
Okay so here is my new list:
Dawn Night Day Land Diary (Still have not seen it)
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Post by gopher in heat on Jul 1, 2008 9:51:54 GMT -5
I would have really liked to have seen that. They most certainly leave it open to "did they run out of fuel" or "did they make it" I think they ran out of fuel and crashed into a ball of kerosene fire. It really is a great film. I wish the remake would have been named something else, it really strays away from the original. Now that I have watched the original twice, it's going to be hard for me to watch the remake and have the same feelings I had for it before I watched Dawn 78. As for the original ending being a downer, are zombie flicks ever a pick me up kind of thing? I read that Romero denied the existence of even the idea of the original ending, apparently years later he admitted to it. Okay so here is my new list: Dawn Night Day Land Diary (Still have not seen it) Well, I don't think zombie movies are ever a pick me up, but Romero will even tell you that DAWN was more of a comic book like approach (with the vivid colors and such). For a while, Romero did deny the alternative ending (the filming of it). It wasn't until years later, when some test photos surfaced, that people found out the truth that the scene had actually been set up... just never filmed. The "downer ending" was never questioned, as the script itself had it in place. As for DIARY, I still really recommend you viewing it, just don't expect quality that is on par with the original trilogy. It's at the bottom of my rankings in the DEAD saga.
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Post by mirai on Jul 1, 2008 11:49:37 GMT -5
The Russo films are much more comical and typical 80's horror. I enjoy them. they are good for a laugh
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